hsc message board > Probably won't help

hsc message board > Main > hsc Software Support

Codger

Aug 19 2004, 02:41 AM

QUOTE

All I did was send you a complaint of UCE originating in your domain. I strongly suggest an attitude adjustment. I have received the same response from you following each UCE report.

GCF

-----Original Message-----
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:mailer-daemon@******.***]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:02 PM
To: mememe@myISP.net
Subject: Returned mail: delivery problems encountered

A message (from <mememe@myISP.net>) was received at 19 Aug 2004 2:02:21 +0000.

The following addresses had delivery problems:

<POSTMASTER@AS9105.NET>
Permanent Failure: 550-Go_away,_you_only_send_us_spam!_If_this_is_a_mistake_contact_'mailmaster
Delivery last attempted at Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:02:23 -0000

Codger

Aug 19 2004, 03:02 AM

Well, first they replied with this:

QUOTE

So I sent it back in the form they required (.zip file). They sent this one back so:

QUOTE

A message (from <mememe@MyISP.net>) was received at 19 Aug 2004 2:52:28 +0000.

The following addresses had delivery problems:

<Mailer-Daemon@internal.mail.uk.tiscali.com>
Permanent Failure: 550-Go_away,_you_only_send_us_spam!_If_this_is_a_mistake_contact_'mailmaster
Delivery last attempted at Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:52:31 -0000

And this is from the upstream provider!

Codger

Aug 19 2004, 03:44 AM

And the beat goes on! How am I supposed to deal with this?
Here is my reply to the latest insult.

QUOTE

I'm getting tired of this game. All I did was send a complaint of UCE originating in your domain. I have jumped through hoops to comply with your requirements while you insult me with obvious fabrications. Please deal with the issue: my legitimate report of UCE originating in your domain.

GCF

-----Original Message-----
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:mailer-daemon@MyISP.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:53 PM
To: mememe@MyISP.net
Subject: Returned mail: delivery problems encountered

A message (from <mememe@MyISP.net>) was received at 19 Aug 2004 2:52:28 +0000.

The following addresses had delivery problems:

<Mailer-Daemon@internal.mail.uk.tiscali.com>
Permanent Failure: 550-Go_away,_you_only_send_us_spam!_If_this_is_a_mistake_contact_'mailmaster
Delivery last attempted at Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:52:31 -0000

And they responded with this:

QUOTE

The message I sent was clearly from my account, not from recipient's mailer daemon.

Jeff Hendrickson

Aug 19 2004, 11:41 AM

It felt good reading it also. I hate responses like this from ISPs.

Codger

Aug 19 2004, 03:16 PM

Thanks, Jeff. I finally got a reasonable response this morning. Maybe it was all worth it.

QUOTE

This Automated Reply is often updated (Current Issues Section Below), so PLEASE READ FULLY as this may be the only response you receive. The Tiscali AUP Team thank you for taking the time to report this incident.

Codger

Aug 20 2004, 12:18 AM

Can anyone tell me what this is? This !@#$ ISP has more tricks than a French hooker.
This is the complete header from a copy of a complaint message I sent yesterday. It is supposedly my original message returned as an attachment to their reply. I say copy, because the original was in true plain text format composed with Outlook 2002 (.msg) while the message that belongs to this header is in HTML format with .eml extension. The plain text was returned in a .txt attachment to the .eml attachment.
Are we confused yet?

QUOTE

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M36%I;"U0<FEO<FET>3H@3F]R;6%L#0I8+4UA:6QE

Here is their reply.

QUOTE

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

mailmaster@as9105.net
This message has been rejected because it has
# a potentially executable attachment ATT00027.eml
# This form of attachment has been used by
# recent viruses or other malware.
# If you meant to send this file then please
# package it up as a zip file and resend it.

------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------

Return-path: <mememe@MyISP.net>
Received: from rwcrmhc12.******.net ([216.148.227.85]:59496)
by internal.mail.uk.tiscali.com
with esmtp (Exim 4.30 #2 (FreeBSD)) id 1Bxcis-0006Ld-4K
for <mailmaster@as9105.net>; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:32:14 +0100
Received: from narnia (h0002b34bf30f.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.30.24.21])
by MyISP.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP
id <2004081902321001400mejmee>; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:32:11 +0000
From: "MadMonk" <mememe@MyISP.net>
To: <mailmaster@AS9105.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:32:10 -0400
Message-ID: <001901c48594$bb16e3b0$15181e42@narnia>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
Importance: Normal
X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 216.148.227.85
X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: madmonk_1@comcast.net
Subject: FW: Returned mail: delivery problems encountered
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on
internal.mail.uk.tiscali.com
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_50_60,
UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63
X-Spam-Level:
X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.0 (built Tue Mar 23 16:47:26 GMT 2004)
X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on internal.mail.uk.tiscali.com)

All I did was send you a complaint of UCE originating in your domain. I strongly suggest an attitude adjustment. I have received the same response from you following each UCE report.

GCF

-----Original Message-----
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:mailer-daemon@******.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:02 PM
To: mememe@MyISP.net
Subject: Returned mail: delivery problems encountered

A message (from <mememe@MyISP.net>) was received at 19 Aug 2004 2:02:21 +0000.

The following addresses had delivery problems:

<POSTMASTER@AS9105.NET>
Permanent Failure: 550-Go_away,_you_only_send_us_spam!_If_this_is_a_mistake_contact_'mailma
ster
Delivery last attempted at Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:02:23 -0000

Here is the HTML (.eml) message they "returned" as an attachment.

QUOTE

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 6.0.4630.0">
<TITLE>Email Abuse Complaint 8/18/2004 10:02:15 PM</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>


Here is the SMTP information.


SMTP Info Start ====================================


Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38])

           by sccrmxc11.comcast.net (sccrmxc11) with ESMTP

           id <20040819014504s11009cv2ee>; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:45:04

 +0000

 X-Originating-IP: [212.74.114.38]

 Received: from mk-cpfront-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.4]:62873

 helo=mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com)

         by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30)

         id 1Bxbz9-000NMG-F2; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:44:59 +0100

 Received: from [216.139.176.61] by mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com with

 HTTP; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:44:58 +0100

 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:44:58 +0100

 Message-ID: <4123FD5800000139@mk-cpfrontend-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com>

 From: junxiao7@tiscali.co.uk

 Subject: spam: Memo from Hua Nan Commercial Bank, Nan Kang

 MIME-Version: 1.0

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 X-tis-spam: =?us-ascii?B?c2NvcmU9MTEuNzk4MDAgKDEzOTAwMywxMTA1?=

         =?us-ascii?B?NzgsMTEzOTcyLDExMDE2NCwxMTMxNTksMTEzODQ2LDExMzk4Mywx?=

         =?us-ascii?B?MTI4OTEsMTE1MzM0LDExMDU0OSwxMTAxMjYsMTEyMDIwLDExNjA4?=

         =?us-ascii?B?NywxMTAwMzYsMTEzNjM0LDExNTM0NCwxMTc3NDEp?=

 

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">

 <HTML>

 <HEAD>

 <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html;

 charset=Windows-1252">

 <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 6.0.4630.0">

 <TITLE></TITLE>

 </HEAD>

 <BODY>

 


Dear Sir/Madam, 

 

 I am Mr.Jun Xiao,and i work for Hua Nan Commercial Bank, Nan Kang 

 

 branch,Taiwan,R.O.C.I am contacting you based on information gathered

 from 

 

 

 

 the Foreign trade office of the Chinese chamber of commerce and 

 

 Industry.You will be surprise to receive this mail, because we have

 not 

 

 met 

 

 before or spoken on phone.I believe you will be in the position to

 help 

 

 me 

 

 in my bid to secure this transaction. 

 

 

 

 A consultant/contractor with the Chinese Solid Minerals

 Corporation,Mr 

 

 Raymond Beck made a numbered time (Fixed) Deposit for twelve 

 

 calendarmonths,valued at US$30,000,000.00 (Thirty Million Dollars)

 in 

 

 my&nbsp; branch.Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to his 

 

 forwarding address but got no reply.After a month, we sent a reminder

 and 

 

 finally 

 

 we discovered from his contract employers, the Chinese Solid

 Minerals 

 

 Corporation that Mr.Raymond Beck died in a plane crash along with

 his 

 

 wife Mr and Mrs&nbsp; Raymond &amp; Dorene Beck in EgyptAir Flight

 990,1999 air 

 

 crash(for more information about this crash and person you can

 contact 

 

 this website: <A HREF="http://www.s-t.com/daily/11-99/11-02-99/d08ho174.htm">http://www.s-t.com/daily/11-99/11-02-99/d08ho174.htm</A>

 Since 

 

 

 

 we got this information about his death. 

 

 

 

 On further investigation, I found out that he died without making a 

 

 WILL,and all attempts to trace his next of kin was fruitless. I 

 

 therefore made further investigation and discovered that Mr.Raymond

 Beck 

 

 did not 

 

 declare any kin or relations in all his official documents,

 including 

 

 his Bank Deposit paperwork in my Bank. This sum of US$30,000,000.00

 is 

 

 still sitting in my Bank. 

 

 

 

 No one will ever come forward to claim it. According to Laws of 

 

 Republic of China, at the expiration of 5 (five) years, the money

 will 

 

 revert to the ownership of the Chinese Government if nobody applies

 to 

 

 claim the fund. The Senior Executive Vice President Mr.Sheng-Yih Hu 

 

 (Owen) is willing to give it to the government to have is own cut

 too.You 

 

 

 

 can check the site <A HREF="http://www.icbc.com.tw/">http://www.icbc.com.tw/</A> Quick Menu About ICBC

 Senior 

 

 

 

 Management Profiles so that you know this person. 

 

 

 

 Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a foreigner to 

 

 stand in as the next of kin to Mr.Raymond Beck so that the fruits of 

 

 this old man's labor will not get into the hands of some corrupt

 government 

 

 officials. 

 

 

 

 This is simple, I will like you to provide immediately your full

 names 

 

 and address so that the attorney will prepare the necessary

 documents 

 

 and affidavits that will put you in place as the next of kin. We

 shall 

 

 employ the services of an attorney for drafting and notarization of

 the 

 

 

 

 WILL and to obtain the necessary documents and letter of 

 

 probate/administration in your favor for the transfer. 

 

 

 

 A bank account in any part of the world that you will provide will

 then 

 

 facilitate the transfer of this money to you as the beneficiary/next

 of 

 

 kin. The money will be paid into your account for us to share in the 

 

 ratio of 60% for me,and 40% for you. 

 

 

 

 There is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this transaction

 will 

 

 be done by the attorney and my position as the Branch Manager 

 

 Guarantees the successful execution of this transaction. If you are 

 

 interested,please send me a confirmation of interest in working with

 me 

 

 

 

 on this transaction.Upon which I shall then provide you with more 

 

 details and relevant documents that will help you understand the 

 

 transaction. 

 

 

 

 Please send me your confidential telephone for easy communication. 

 

 Please observe utmost confidentiality, and be rest assured that this 

 

 transaction would be most profitable for both of us because I shall 

 

 require your assistance to invest my share in your country. 

 

 

 

 Thank as i await your confirmation of interest. 

 

 

 

 

 

 Faithfully Yours, 

 

 

 

 Jun Xiao. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 __________________________________________________________________ 

 

 Get Tiscali Broadband From £15:99 

 

 <A HREF="http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadbandhome/">http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadbandhome/</A> 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


</BODY>

 </HTML>


SMTP Info End ======================================


Generated by SpamX Version 1.3.3

 <A HREF="http://www.hendricom.com">http://www.hendricom.com</A>

 

</BODY>
</HTML>

Finally, here is the plain text message I sent.[quote]Here is the SMTP information.

SMTP Info Start ====================================

Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38])
by sccrmxc11.comcast.net (sccrmxc11) with ESMTP
id <20040819014504s11009cv2ee>; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:45:04
+0000
X-Originating-IP: [212.74.114.38]
Received: from mk-cpfront-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.4]:62873
helo=mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com)
by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30)
id 1Bxbz9-000NMG-F2; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:44:59 +0100
Received: from [216.139.176.61] by mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com with
HTTP; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:44:58 +0100
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:44:58 +0100
Message-ID: <4123FD5800000139@mk-cpfrontend-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com>
From: junxiao7@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: spam: Memo from Hua Nan Commercial Bank, Nan Kang
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-tis-spam: =?us-ascii?B?c2NvcmU9MTEuNzk4MDAgKDEzOTAwMywxMTA1?=

=?us-ascii?B?NzgsMTEzOTcyLDExMDE2NCwxMTMxNTksMTEzODQ2LDExMzk4Mywx?=

=?us-ascii?B?MTI4OTEsMTE1MzM0LDExMDU0OSwxMTAxMjYsMTEyMDIwLDExNjA4?=
=?us-ascii?B?NywxMTAwMzYsMTEzNjM0LDExNTM0NCwxMTc3NDEp?=

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html;
charset=Windows-1252">
<META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 6.0.4630.0">
<TITLE></TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>


Dear Sir/Madam, 
 
I am Mr.Jun Xiao,and i work for Hua Nan Commercial Bank, Nan Kang 
 
branch,Taiwan,R.O.C.I am contacting you based on information gathered
from 
 
 
 
the Foreign trade office of the Chinese chamber of commerce and 
 
Industry.You will be surprise to receive this mail, because we have
not 
 
met 
 
before or spoken on phone.I believe you will be in the position to
help 
 
me 
 
in my bid to secure this transaction. 
 
 
 
A consultant/contractor with the Chinese Solid Minerals
Corporation,Mr 
 
Raymond Beck made a numbered time (Fixed) Deposit for twelve 
 
calendarmonths,valued at US$30,000,000.00 (Thirty Million Dollars)
in 
 
my  branch.Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to his 
 
forwarding address but got no reply.After a month, we sent a reminder
and 
 
finally 
 
we discovered from his contract employers, the Chinese Solid
Minerals 
 
Corporation that Mr.Raymond Beck died in a plane crash along with
his 
 
wife Mr and Mrs  Raymond & Dorene Beck in EgyptAir Flight
990,1999 air 
 
crash(for more information about this crash and person you can
contact 
 
this website: http://www.s-t.com/daily/11-99/11-02-99/d08ho174.htm
Since 
 
 
 
we got this information about his death. 
 
 
 
On further investigation, I found out that he died without making a 
 
WILL,and all attempts to trace his next of kin was fruitless. I 
 
therefore made further investigation and discovered that Mr.Raymond
Beck 
 
did not 
 
declare any kin or relations in all his official documents,
including 
 
his Bank Deposit paperwork in my Bank. This sum of US$30,000,000.00
is 
 
still sitting in my Bank. 
 
 
 
No one will ever come forward to claim it. According to Laws of 
 
Republic of China, at the expiration of 5 (five) years, the money
will 
 
revert to the ownership of the Chinese Government if nobody applies
to 
 
claim the fund. The Senior Executive Vice President Mr.Sheng-Yih Hu 
 
(Owen) is willing to give it to the government to have is own cut
too.You 
 
 
 
can check the site http://www.icbc.com.tw/ Quick Menu About ICBC
Senior 
 
 
 
Management Profiles so that you know this person. 
 
 
 
Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a foreigner to 
 
stand in as the next of kin to Mr.Raymond Beck so that the fruits of 
 
this old man's labor will not get into the hands of some corrupt
government 
 
officials. 
 
 
 
This is simple, I will like you to provide immediately your full
names 
 
and address so that the attorney will prepare the necessary
documents 
 
and affidavits that will put you in place as the next of kin. We
shall 
 
employ the services of an attorney for drafting and notarization of
the 
 
 
 
WILL and to obtain the necessary documents and letter of 
 
probate/administration in your favor for the transfer. 
 
 
 
A bank account in any part of the world that you will provide will
then 
 
facilitate the transfer of this money to you as the beneficiary/next
of 
 
kin. The money will be paid into your account for us to share in the 
 
ratio of 60% for me,and 40% for you. 
 
 
 
There is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this transaction
will 
 
be done by the attorney and my position as the Branch Manager 
 
Guarantees the successful execution of this transaction. If you are 
 
interested,please send me a confirmation of interest in working with
me 
 
 
 
on this transaction.Upon which I shall then provide you with more 
 
details and relevant documents that will help you understand the 
 
transaction. 
 
 
 
Please send me your confidential telephone for easy communication. 
 
Please observe utmost confidentiality, and be rest assured that this 
 
transaction would be most profitable for both of us because I shall 
 
require your assistance to invest my share in your country. 
 
 
 
Thank as i await your confirmation of interest. 
 
 
 
 
 
Faithfully Yours, 
 
 
 
Jun Xiao. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
__________________________________________________________________ 
 
Get Tiscali Broadband From £15:99 
 
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadbandhome/ 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



</BODY>
</HTML>

SMTP Info End ======================================

Generated by SpamX Version 1.3.3
http://www.hendricom.com

QUOTE

Dear Sir/ Ma'am,

Thank you for bringing a 419 abuser to our attention. We have tracked the user down and have flagged the mailbox for closure and rendered the account unusable. Thanks again for bringing this to our attention and for helping us to stamp out these spammers.

Regards,
Tiscali AUP Team
abuse@uk.tiscali.com

Jeff Hendrickson

Aug 20 2004, 11:01 AM

Bravo Codger...

Remind me never to make you angry with me!

Tifferg

Aug 20 2004, 06:29 PM

QUOTE

Remind me never to make you angry with me!

Especially if he goes round chopping your legs off, or does he just get you legless...? ;-)

This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.